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Switch to Desktop Version. I for one, am willing to use the legal stuff. Training Advice Given the fact you are taking a powerful prohormone which will rapidly boost muscle mass, training volume should be increased but we recommend limiting the increase in weights. Protodrol was designed specifically to provide a bulking compound with a low risk of side effects so the only side effects you could expect to have would be those associated with all prohormone products.
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In this in-depth article, we provide a comprehensive guide to these powerful compounds. Prohormones are compounds which are converted via an enzymatic process to anabolic hormones in the body. As such they will cause similar effects in the body to anabolic steroids, inducing rapid muscle and strength gains, but of a lesser magnitude than anabolic steroids, due to the rate limiting effect caused by the enzyme conversion. However, this technical definition is nowadays considered out of date due to the innovation displayed in the supplement industry since the introduction of the very first prohormone, androstenedione.
Today the term 'prohormones' is used to cover not just precursors to steroid hormones but also covers compounds which are active in their own right and which require no conversion to a different hormone to engender any anabolic effects. For the sake of simplicity, in this article the term 'prohormone' will cover all products which work via a hormonal mechanism to cause anabolic effects, and not just those which convert from one compound into another after ingestion.
Prohormones were introduced on to the supplement world in by renowned US chemist Patrick Arnold who developed the supplement androstenedione and unleashed it on an unsuspecting public. Androstenedione certainly created a buzz in the sports world and is heavily linked in the popular press with baseball greats such as Mark McGwire whose use of the supplement was brought to light as he chased the baseball home run record in In breaking the record that year McGwire brought notoriety both to that sport and captured the attention of law makers in the United States.
Androstenedione was quickly followed by a number of other supplements like androstenediol, norandrostenediol, androstadienedione and 5 alpha androstenediol to name just a few.
These all had different effects, some being converted to testosterone in the body, while others were converted in the body to anabolic hormones such as nandrolone, boldenone, and dihydrotestosterone DHT.
After some time, Patrick Arnold's company Ergopharm introduced the prohormone 1-AD, which converted into a hormone called 1-testosterone. This was the first prohormone considered to be of comparable effectiveness to illegal steroids such as Winstrol or Primobolan. In fact at the time of its introduction much was made of the fact that it was qualitatively similar to the steroid Trenbolone Acetate.
With the introduction of 1-AD, prohormones had clearly progressed in leaps and bounds since the introduction of androstenedione widely considered within bodybuilding to be pretty worthless by that time.
With the introduction of 1-AD, the prohormone market changed dramatically. A number of supplement companies, aware that the process of enzymatic conversion meant that prohormones were weaker than taking an equivalent amount of the target hormone they converted into, decided to market products such as 1-testosterone the hormone which 1-AD would convert to and, eventually, the now notorious methyltestosterone M1T , which was a alpha alkylated or methylated hormone.
Many in the supplement industry, Arnold among them, argued that the proliferation of powerful products such as M1T would eventually result in negative publicity to attach itself to the supplement industry as a whole and considered it madness that such products had been introduced on to the supplement market. These doomsayers were proven right and eventually the US congress passed into law the Anabolic Steroid Control Act of which effectively classed all the prohormones then on the market as illegal drugs on a par with anabolic steroids.
By early they had been removed from the market in the United States. A rundown of the actions of individual prohormone products follows so this section shall only cover actions attributable to all classes of prohormone products. This in itself could be an article in its own right so here is the shortened version. Prohormones exert their effects through several different pathways, but the ones that are most important to people considering using them are their actions via their effects on the body's androgenic, estrogenic and progestogenic receptors.
It is through these receptors that prohormone effects are largely mediated, with other pathways of secondary importance. Prohormones, just like anabolic steroids, are androgen agonists meaning they work via their effect on the androgen receptor.
A strong androgen receptor agonist will mean effects related to the male hormone testosterone will be particularly prominent. These include increased aggression, sex drive, alpha male type characteristics in general, as well as heightened risk of side effects related to high androgen levels such as an increased susceptibility to hair loss and acne, although these side effects are very much individual in nature and will depend on the person taking them.
They tend to only be an issue for those already susceptible to these conditions. Linked to these androgenic effects is the propensity for prohormones to induce sizeable increases in muscle strength, large muscle gains, and a hardening effect on the muscles, such that muscles feel denser and more solid.
Prohormones that do not convert to estrogen such as RPN's Havoc tend to exhibit these types of muscle gains with no water retention. Away from their effects on androgen receptors, prohormones can also cause effects via estrogen and progesterone receptors.
These effects tend to be quite similar in nature. Prohormones that convert to estrogen and progesterone have the ability to cause large increases in mass and strength although much of the mass is of a poor quality visually and such gains often disappear rapidly being associated with water retention more than anything else.
Estrogenic side effects are feared by most bodybuilders and include increased water weight, increased susceptibility to fat gain in the presence of high estrogen and worst of all, from a cosmetic standpoint at least, the dreaded gynecomastia. You will often hear of prohormones being called androgenic or estrogenic or even both, but it should be stated this is often based on their primary method of action and that all will have an androgenic effect at some level, as they all primarily work via their effect on the androgen receptor.
Separate from their effects via androgen, estrogen, and progesterone receptors, prohormones will also differ in their impact on other body systems. Typically, strong androgens are useful for promoting strength gains via the central nervous system CNS stimulation, independent of their anabolic or muscle building effects. A strong androgen would often be something similar in nature to Dihydrotestosterone.
Furthermore, prohormones will promote enhanced red blood cell production which is why users of prohormones usually experience great pumps and vascularity. Generally speaking, liver toxicity is a concern only for methylated, oral compounds, which is most prohormones nowadays but even then, as the list below shows, they can differ by a wide degree in magnitude of effect.
Since the removal of the first generation of prohormones in , various supplement companies have worked hard on creating products which can provide a sizeable anabolic effect while complying with the requirements of the law.
One of the most important considerations was to ensure that not only did they manufacture a product that was effective and legal, but also safe, as the wave of methylated prohormones released in the wake of M1T were certainly of doubtful safety given their widely noted negative effects on a range of body tissues, most notably liver values.
As a result of the innovations in the industry since , we now have a number of products on the market which have been around for some time and in favour with bodybuilders and athletes alike.
To make things easy we will refer to the compounds by their brand names: Androtest is not methylated which makes it non-toxic for the liver unlike methylated prohormones. Androtest converts directly into testosterone so that for those AAS users who do not like the idea of injecting testosterone, Androtest offers an oral alternative.
Based on user feedback to date we would estimate that caps a day is equivalent in potency to around mg of testosterone enanthate per week.
Androtest converts directly to testosterone in the body and thus delivers rapid muscle mass gains and strength increase. The cyclodextrin delivery system ensures optimal absorption and utilisation of 4-AD as well as makes it stackable with other prohormones for even greater muscle and strength gains.
Androtest is a prohoromone intended to give you great results with very little side effects if any at all. Since it converts directly to testosterone, it may aromatize, so keeping an estrogen blocker on the side might be a good idea. However, it should be noted that even when two products are identical, users can experience different effects depending on the quality of the isomer, manufacturing process and so on. With Havoc it is listed slightly different 2a,3a-epithioa-methyl-5a-androstanb-ol 2.
Dosages are usually in the mg range. Good for promoting solid, lean muscle gains with a concomitant reduction in estrogen leading to a drier physique, and significant strength gains. This will contribute to the vascularity users typically report. Havoc is also sometimes used purely to combat gynecomastia as they act in the body as an anti-estrogen, so that endogenous testosterone levels are less suppressed by this compound than other prohormones.
Less hepatoxic and damaging to lipid levels than other orals but the usual androgenic side effects associated with prohormones remain a possibility. Halodrol was introduced to the bodybuilding world by Gaspari Nutrition and is a prosteroid of Turinabol, the banned East German designer steroid. This means it converts to Turinabol once ingested. Although Halodrol is no longer available, there are generic equivalents today such as Fusion Supplements' Halodrol. The typical dose for products such as Halodrol is 50mg a day, which equates to one tablet daily.
Solid gains in muscle and strength, often taken while dieting to aid preservation of muscle mass. Considered stressful on the liver and can raise blood pressure somewhat in users. Dienazone has now been discontinued but has been replaced by Fusion Supplement's Liquidien , which uses an identical compound. Liquidien shares similar characteristics as Tren supplements but is more potent and so will provide greater muscle and strength gains.
Rapid gain in muscle and strength without any estrogenic side effects as Liquidien does not convert to estrogen. It will lead to an even greater gain in size and strength than comparable oral versions of Liquidien.
Similar to the case for Estrabolan, Liquidien can be quite suppressive on testosterone so a thorough PCT is highly recommended.
Daily dosage is mg a day. Protodrol is considered to be a potent mass builder, with a low incidence of side effects being very favourable on both liver and lipid profiles.
As it does not convert to estrogen, Protodrol will impart muscle and strength gains with an absence of water retention. As such it is a very versatile compound which can be used for both bulking, recompositioning and dieting. Protodrol was designed specifically to provide a bulking compound with a low risk of side effects so the only side effects you could expect to have would be those associated with all prohormone products. Nanodrol is by some distance the most potent prohormone ever released.
Nanodrol is renowned for producing massive gains in strength, muscle mass, and being an active compound does not require any enzymatic conversion.
Huge strength and mass gains in a short time as well as notable repartitioning benefits which means many Nanodrol users experience a considerable degree of fat loss along with their lean body mass gains. Resistance to metabolic breakdown further potentiates the positive effects of Nanodrol.
Notably liver toxic and suppressive, Nanodrol is only for users with multiple prohormone cycles under their belt already. Iron Legion are famous for producing outstanding products. Nano Mithras is one of their most renowned prohormones that offer incredible muscle mass gains and strength. It is certainly a product that will take your training and results to another level.
Nano Mithras can lead to dramatic increase in muscle mass, adding almost 5kg in about a week. Mithras Nanoparticles provides better absorption, since it is made of tiny particles between 50 and nanometres, thus being much more effectively digested by the GI tract. Nano Mithras is methylated prohormone, so we recommend taking this prohormone with some type of cycle support supplement, such as Talos. Cynostane, developed by Anabolic Innovations, is an extremely anabolic compound with remarkably low androgenic action, making it qualitatively similar to the likes of Oxandrolone or Methenolone Primobolan.
It is non-aromatizing meaning it will not produce estrogen mediated side effects and its high degree of anabolic action makes it a favourable choice for athletes concerned with losing body fat while maintaining, or increasing, muscle mass. From feedback to date, Cynostane has very potent recomposition effects making it ideal for athletes and when dieting. If using to bulk up, calories would need to be increased considerably. Blood work conducted by users shows that Cynostane has a more favourable effect on blood lipids, and liver values than Superdrol itself.
Although feedback to date is limited, the combination of low androgenic action, lack of aromatization to estrogen, and low level of general health effects, makes cynostane an intriguing newcomer to the prohormone world. With its high anabolic to androgenic ratio It is also great for either bulking or cutting, making it a very universal prohormone. Triumphalis is an orally effective prohormone that leads to enhanced protein uptake and thus greater muscle growth.
On the top of that this prohormone does not aromatize, thus avoiding common problems such excess water retention or side effects such as gynecomastia. Triumphalis was designed to be a highly anabolic prohormone that enhances the bulking or cutting phase, so the only side effects you could expect to have would be those associated with all prohormone products.
XI-KT is a non-suppressive anabolic that should enhance your strength while giving you great pumps. It is based around ketotestosterone, which is primary androgen in fish. It is distinctive in that it tends to lower the cortisol in the body, which is one of the factors for fat gain. As such, XI-KT is a great alternative for those going on a solid cut. But the info provided above should be something that causes you to delve into your own research and study of these items to find out for yourself.
Thank you Arnold jr. Princess L on July 02, , Rimbaud on July 29, , What the hell did you think would happen?
Anything like that will suppress natural test production - which you did. Do you think of doing some sort of Post Cycle Therapy? Now you're getting HRT with the Test cream - well guess what? That'll suppress you to - you're just continuing the cycle. What you really need is time. The body has the ability to bounce back but you need to give it time.
The top of this thread states: Apparently, there are some out there who believe they are much more knowledgeable in this arena because I received this email. The reporter has made the following comment: To much misimformation on the sticky I don't have much of a clue about pro-hormones, however, there are many here who do and they have shared their knowledge as part of this sticky.
If the email author would care to share his wealth of knowledge with the the Getbig community, I'd be happy to post it within this thread. The only problem with the article you wrote was the lack of objectivity and lumping all of all "legal" items into a category..
There were several Pro Hormones that worked very well with little toxicity.. Also they were more potent than there illegal steroid counterparts However, you are also claim that the whole class of prohormones produce zero anabolic action at all..
Arnold jr on September 21, , We're talking about Pro-hormones, we're not talking about 1 or 2 in particular, but Pro-hormones in general. How many categories should there be when you're talking about 1 thing? I'm sorry but you are talking out of your ass on this one.
Think whatever you want, but the statement above, you simply made that up. I challenge you to show me 1 iota of proof that "they were more potent than there illegal steroid counterparts In most cases side effects are stronger I'm sure there are exceptions, as was noted in the article with the words "more often then not" Last off, no where in that article is there a claim that "that the whole class of prohormones produce zero anabolic action at all..
Anyone can see for themselves from reading the article that this was never implied. Guys, Just wanted to put in a small bit of constructive criticism, as indeed this is a key site with many important participants. Many people are assuming these are lesser compounds simply because they are being sold openly mind you in violation of federal law.
None of which are true. I think a lot of people realize this. I for one, am willing to use the legal stuff. I am, however, a 39 year old indep trainer 14 years exp, published etc and a gym owner, so the way I might use a compound is likely different than a lot of younger guys with the "I'm immortal" attitude. I tend to agree. What about toxicity compared to real, human grade AAS?
There has to be a reason that some of these compounds never made it as real AAS. And lets take my situation for example. Used the whole Anabolic Xtreme line starting with Phera-Plex, then Superdrol, then Prostanzonal for a total of 8 weeks. Sorry, will forever use real AAS under my doctor supervision rather than trust my health to a fly by night "designer steroid" company. Been there, done that. Good stuff man, thank you very much!
We need more minds like yours here.. I think the real reason we haven't seen superdrol, phera, etc. As a class of drugs, these all to some extent shave value in the same therapeutic areas.
So they could have been further studied and likely developed into therapeutic drugs. But you can't develop 1, drugs for the same select few purposes.
You would go bankrupt. You pick the most logistically, medically, and financially viable compounds and ignore the rest. So you can't assume just because it wasn't developed into one that it is inferior.
I must correct myself. Superdrol itself was never sold, but a double molecule of superdrol with an azine bridge, metabolically broken to yield free superdrol was at one time sold in Europe as a prescription drug.
It saw little clinical use though, and disappeared quickly. Never was adopted or even studied on humans in the U. While I would call myself somewhat of a rationalist when it comes to steroids, and generally disagree with media characterizations of steroid use as tantamount to Russian roulette, I can't say that I agree they should be widely used without doctor supervision.
It is a shame we have outlawed their use for non-approved non-medical uses. This would solve much of the issue when it comes to drug safety. William, I bought about 6 bottles of Hydroxy-test Estergels from Molecular Nutrition back before the ban. I still have them in my fridge 2 years maybe? I have some questions. Are they still viable having been refrigerated the entire time?
How much test suppression would I get from a 4 week cycle of this product?
Iamges: phera plex manufactured by anabolic xtreme
Products containing ephedra or ma huang. Some may also send your orders in discreet packaging.
I'm sure there are exceptions, as was noted in the article with the words "more often then not" We need more minds like yours here.. These doomsayers were proven right and eventually the US congress passed into law the Anabolic Steroid Control Act of which effectively classed all the prohormones then on the market as illegal drugs on a par with anabolic steroids.
Results 11 to 19 of Supplement listings that include disease names plwx their keywords. Furazadrol 5a-androstano 2,3-c furazanb-tetrahydropyranol ether - 50mg Furazadrol was developed by Axis Labs as an alternative to methylated prohormones winstrol steroids.com as Havoc or Dymethazine. Register Help Members Login. I'd prove it to you, but I'm not a homo.
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